looks like I hit a raw nerve with all the freetards coming out of the woodwork to “debunk” me publically.
http://forums.theregister.co.uk/forum/2/2010/02/13/openoffice_review
I put my name on the web and I put my money where my mouth is, hardly anyone has the balls to do that it seems and when they do, they make such a complete cock of themselves it’s incredible.
Imagine this, I give point after point about why openoffice is failing and why office 2007 has gotten it right. Yet instead of detailing a single point why I am wrong, they say that I’m a whiney corporate schill or perhaps that i’m using straw man arguments. Yet instead of details WHY all this is true, they just say it and hope that it becomes true.
We, my friends, are in classic freetard territory, where the person who ends the discussion with “your wrong” wins. Classic idiot territory is another way you can describe it.
Here my freetarded friends, I shall give you a point by point way to success in: How to have online discussion
1) if someone says something you don’t like, it’s YOUR RESPONSIBILITY to put the world straight
2) if you wish to do this, you must counter what is being said, with arguments that address the original text
3) Saying “Your wrong!!!!one!!!!eleventy!” does not make you win the discussion, it just makes you look stupid
4) if you reply like this and you get smacked down, it’s because you’re an idiot, go back to working in McDonalds, the world does not need you
5) If you do reply in an intelligent manner, do not attack the person, if you get called an idiot, most likely, it’s because instead of replying the argument, you retorted that “you must think that because you’re stupid” because thats a sure fire way to lose any argument.
6) if you abuse me, I shall abuse you, plus if I am right and you havent demonstrated intelligence, I reserve the right to publically pound you until I get bored.
Those simple yet effective rules, shall guide you to your path, if they don’t, please go back to your basement, nobody cares about you and I really hope nobody procreates with you also.
A good example of DOING_IT_WRONG is clearly demonstrated here:
http://forums.theregister.co.uk/forum/2/2010/02/13/openoffice_review
You can see some people have demonstrated intelligence and are replied in the same way that they have done so, you can also see lots of people who have demonstrated idiocy and the resulting wrath that is laid upon them.
Happy commenting!
#1 by David Alexander on March 15, 2010 - 9:31 am
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Lol at this! Good points, I personally like openoffice but I suppose you wouldn’t consider me a power user as I just use it for the odd spreadsheet and word document and don’t have any major feature requests. I used to use word back in the day of me buying package computers etc but as these days I generally purchase a new brandless laptop every 18 months I try and rely on open source for a lot of things.
I like your stuff mate keep up the good work, your advice on fotobook has proved very useful. Thanks
You can see how I used it at http://faceevent.co.uk/photos
Good day.
David
#2 by chris on March 15, 2010 - 9:57 am
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hey,
I really like your fotobook implementation. it’s very nice and clean, I am getting more and more into facebook and the API’s it has on offer and i’m trying to think how I can write some code that will allow me to pull comments from facebook and put them together with the photos being displayed and then also allow comments that are added in your website, to appear in facebook (bi-directional commenting) and some other cool stuff.
but your site is very cool!
#3 by Christopher on March 19, 2010 - 4:42 pm
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Finally someone else who sees it my way. I use a Mac and use iWork 09, which supported Office 2007 documents in iWork 08. It looks and acts way better than Open Office ever will.
Reasons I hate OOo
1)Ditch Java already nobody wants Java in an office application, thats just retarded.
2)Even in Windows it has issues when editing large amounts of text, the text gets all misaligned and I am sure I am not the only one to notice this.
3)The interface is horribly screwed up and instead of fixing it, in 3.2 they add more menus, and obscurity.
4)It is still slow when using it when compared to Office 2010, and iWork ‘09 and it cant even handle it’s own documents.
You can take all these arguments and apply them to all FOSS software. Companies spend millions on research and development, and there is a reason people buy licenses to their products, they work! You have to jump through hoops in any FOSS application to accomplish the same amount of work on an application I already paid for.
Gabs, my friend, got a netbook with Ubuntu on it. Upgraded to 9.10, and it kernel panicked and wouldn’t let her do anything with it other than stare at the messages. When trying to reinstall 9.04, it wouldn’t boot properly to a USB stick made with a live CD. Windows simply does not have these issues, and they happen all the time. In my Ubuntu installs in the past, there was 4 sound servers and if one died you were stuck figuring out what one died and how to fix it before you got sound back. KDE is a mess and is completely broken. I thank God for Microsoft and Apple.
#4 by chris on March 19, 2010 - 5:17 pm
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hi christopher,
you make some good points, others are kinda neither here or there, I guess it’s not THAT important about java, yeah, it’s not that useful, but I couldnt care less what language it was written in, whether it’s java, C, C++, python, etc. I suppose the question of speed comes into play, but I found out that using the IcedTea java implementation is crap slow compared to the official java from sun itself, which is much faster when using openoffice.
the issue about misaligning text, you got it right, big time, the one thing that pisses me off the most is the user interface is complete shit when it comes to managing text, alignments etc and it’s not just openoffice, it’s other apps as well, take gimp for example, oh my fucking god, whos fucking idea was that????? I dont mean the layout of the tools etc, I mean, inside the document, the user interface just doesnt give you the feedback you need in order to make intelligent decisions, you guess, you hit the button knowing ctrl-z is available. I am always screaming at openoffice to format documents, to the point that being a web developer, I sometimes just open a text editor and start writing it in HTML just because it’s simpler and easier and more predictable. Thats how crap it is.
Everyone complains about the ribbon, but I’m sorry, it’s far superior to the shit cake that is openoffice, which is basically a clone of office 97 with some better polish, I mean, it groups everything together logically, it lets you use styles more than raw text formatting, which for large documents is very helpful, etc, etc, etc, the list is just huge, people complain but they are just the kind of people who would complain about everything that changes, you have to change, you have to adapt in order to evolve the product PAST it’s origins and into new territory where you can claim new users and sell more, I mean, if they didnt change the interface, you’d have office 2020 coming out with a user interface created back in 1997 ??? what fucking sense does that make? just because it was good in 1997 doesnt mean that 13 years later it’s still good, perhaps it was just the best you could do back in that time, but now you have better tools, we need to improve. The ribbon is that improvement, it’s new, confusing a little, but you get used to it at the end.
yeah, dammed right openoffice is slow…urgh….thats why I got microsoft office installed, plus the documents it creates are just plain ugly compared to the documents in word.
and about FOSS apps, yeah, you can pretty much say that, people just don’t get it, the interface HAS TO BE BEAUTIFUL! if it looks like a shit, people won’t like using it, thats why people like the mac, because the user interface is great, clean, clear, well animated, looks modern, does modern things, acts modern, doesnt act like a shovel, etc.
Gimp for example, they are only just this year (perhaps next year) going to have a single window mode, WHY??? gimp is from 1998 isnt it? yet in 12 years, what have they done? I’m sorry, but I can’t see 12 years of development, they are ONLY JUST moving to a better graphics engine, why did it take them 12 years? why wasnt the system built in such a way that you can replace the engine easily? why was the engine was dramatically underpowered in the first place? why does it take 12 years for people to see that single window mode, MIGHT ACTUALLY BE USEFUL TO SOME PEOPLE.
idiots!
about sound systems, linux kernel panics, etc, you’re right, choice, as they say, benefits everyone, but too much choice benefits nobody, I dont mind there being 100 sound servers, but I think it’s only common sense to say that if you have one installed already, you cannot install another one, what is the rationale behind wanting 4 different ones installed? compatibility? ok, but if I want to be compatible with an app, have it depend on installing the sound server and uninstall my current one, if I have a conflict of interest, tough shit, get the app developers to stop circle jerking each other making sound servers all day when what people really want, is a single window gimp and NO, your sound server isnt good, it’s a pile of shit, just like the other 99.
#5 by Bruce on May 21, 2010 - 7:54 pm
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Lol at this! Good points, I personally like openoffice but I suppose you wouldn’t consider me a power user as I just use it for the odd spreadsheet and word document and don’t have any major feature requests. I used to use word back in the day of me buying package computers etc but as these days I generally purchase a new brandless laptop every 18 months I try and rely on open source for a lot of things.
I like your stuff mate keep up the good work, your advice on fotobook has proved very useful. Thanks
You can see how I used it at http://faceevent.co.uk/photos
Good day.
David
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#7 by chris on July 26, 2010 - 11:46 pm
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